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What? Croydon 'B' 2010 Interleague Trials
When? Saturday 13th of February, for a 12:30 registration
Where? Rileys Purley Way
There will be a ?3 entry fee in rder to help pay for admin throughout the year.
A Swiss System will run throughout the trials.

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i find this a waste of time... save your money just turn up when interleague starts... as like others that have done, and seem to get in 2 the team without going to trials...

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Grow up!!!!!!!!

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Umm nicely put mr Pickett.... But am voicing an opinion I would like to see a change the 2 seasons I played people seemed to walk in though the back door which I think is unfair on the people that pay let's hope this is so ..

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I suppose you could save ur money, afterall ?3 for a full day of pool which would otherwise cost you around ?20 is a bit of a rip off.

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Croydon have always held new season trials, So turn up
pay your money playwell get a place in the team.

Take part Instead of taking the P-SS

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i think your find the changes were made last season so your a bit behind the times mate!!! As for your opinion if you stopped chatting bull on here and actually played those money matches you promised everyone then people would probably take your opinion on board!!!!

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After complainin about having to pay the equivalent to a bus ticket, it's no suprise those money matches flop :snigger:

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I must admit, the trails have not always been the best way to get quality players to play for you. I have twice now tried-out for the Croydon team, both times had 'bad days at the office' you could say. OK, I'am not surggesting for a moment that I am the 'dogs bollcks' at all things Red & Yellow, but on merrit alone I think I should play for Croydon, most of the Croydon 'B' team who know me will proberly agree. Sorry I will not be turning up at the trails...but if you fail to find ahalf decent player amoungst those that do,...you know where to find me.

Regards
Rainbow
:angel:

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The trials are the fairest way possible to give everyone that thinks they have what it takes to get in the side.

Hughie (Team Manager) will have limited knowledge of players outside the top division or players from other venues other than Suzy's.
So it could be that a gem of a player goes under the radar and gets missed.

With the trials, it matters not what division you play in, or how much experience you have, everyone has an equal chance to qualify, and of course, catch the eye of the team manager on the day.
It's done the exact same way at county level.

Every now and again, a player does have a bad at the office, it's inevitable, but the cream generally will float to the top so to speak.

To not qualify twice does seem strange given the fact you got to the Singles final in the Summer am I right? But this should only make you more determined to do it this time round. I know that's the way I'd see it, becasue if you have the talent, which you evidently do, then you should get in more often than you don't.

What I will say is the trials are done over single frame format.
You play lots of different players, over one frame each.
This seems harsh, as it flys in the face of better players will thrive over longer distance, but it's done this way to mirror the way that Interleague is played (County too).

If you did get through, you would play different players, over a single frame, in an extension of what we all play on tuesday nights, so the trials in that respect are very relevant.

If your strengths lie in playing an opponent over longer distance, i.e. best of 3's / 5's / 7's, then maybe Interleague is not really for you???
Just a thought.

In conclusion, what I will say, is that this is Hughie's first full year as team manager, and it will be done a bit differently.

I can't speak for Hughie, but I'm fairly confident in saying that NOT trialing, but issuing a "You know where I am if you want me" response, will not put you at the head of the queue.

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after the success of last season i hope that theres going to be loads of players that attend the trials,playing for croydon wether its in the a or b team is a great experiance and good fun with the possability of going to yarmouth which is an experiance in itself.
last season has seen croydon b team qualify for yarmouth which will be later this year so chaps get down to rileys and be apart of the interleague setup,(you wont regret it)
are there any current members of the b team that do not have to trial as they reached a certain percentage ?
can hughie and mick confirm who these players are ?:thumb:

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am going to start this as am not trying to mock the interleague, but the set-up could b made different ...
this is my opinion..
croydon should hold A-B-C trials....
div 1 players should try out for the A team as i think the strongest players are of course in this league
div 2 players should try out for B
and u could even put a croydon C team together made up of the other divs 3,4,5 as mark said at presentation there are around 650 players registered... it can also give lower div players a chance at improving there game .... if not then i think u could have a points system of players that have gone out there way turned up paid there money ... my point is that A and B seem to let players sign up yet didnt take the time out to turn up for the trials thats whats i beleive takes the piss .... i wish croydon interleague all the best and good luck to those who do turn up...i loved playing for them and the experenice u can gain playing better players is fantastic....:stayontopic:

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I think there could be a C team too. I known there is quite a bit of interest from Croydon players. At the moment, I'm guessing there wont be many places up for grabs in the A's/B's? Does anyone know how it would work if Croydon were to put a C team in (maybe not this season but in the future some time)

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Oh my god... That is actually 2 sensible posts that I can remember from Andy now... I'd even be inclined to agree with this one :o

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As ThePower once said..

"Careful, Spence, it's easy to get lured in"

:lol:

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I understand what you mean, however surely it would be unfair on the 1st division players who are unable to play 'A' team standard pool. If you restrict the B team to Division 2 players only, then you are stopping them from playing interleague all together. You must find a happy medium where you can have a combination of quality whilst at the same time planning for the future of Croydonpool.

However, in the meantime I feel that it is more important to boost Croydon's reputation and put the higher quality players on show for the rest of Sureey to see. Once this is achieved we can beging to work on pushing new talent through and progressing.

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Hi all,

Historically a player got retained in the Squad if he had more than 57% for that season or historically over the years of service. Players returning that had previously had averages above this were welcomed to return on a case by case basisi, although whether this is actaully in the constitution of the team I do not know. Trials exist because they are a fundamental rule adopted when the teams were first created.

Anyone who failed to hit the averages had to retrail, and take their chances against any new players that wanted to play.The players were not A or B Team players. They were in the squad at which point the two captains and latterly Team Manager had the power to select the A and B Teams from the pool of players that existed.

The issue over recent years is that people have indicated they would play for X or Y Team for varying reasons, when ultimately its not their choice its the captains/managers. This is my opinion has brought some division within the squad and may be a contributing factor in the past to the 'play my mates' approach.

Anyhow hopefully this year Hughie and the B Team captain will decide on the merits of the players after the trials have been completed, and the manner in which the teams are managed will be more transparent and fair.

Incidentally the trials have always been open and at the time I started playing in the 1990 season, their were 50+ players at trials for 4 or 5 spaces. It should be a privelige to represent the league, not a chore, not a right, and certainly not easy!

Regarding the C Team I can categorically say the Surrey will refuse this at this time. Unfortunately for the additonal players that may want to play, Surrey have not to my knowledge ever had a C Team, and would only consider this if they were 100% confident about Croydons infrustructure to maintain that many teams.

It is unfortunate therefore that last year, administration errors in the A Team as well as not fulfilling a fixture at the end will result in that stability being questioned. And rightly so.

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So speakth the wise old timer Tom Telford. :lol:

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I'd just had an English lesson lol
:nerner:

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Possibly didn't include a spelling lesson though :bite:

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I heard you wrote this DURING the lesson!! :lol:

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I heard u wrote that during your English lesson!!

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Tom seems to have inherited his pool playing ability from his dad and his intelligence from his mum. Good job it wasn't the other way round.

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I'll take the intelligence as a compliment, not sure about the pool :lol:
ol and would it be ok to get a post on here from people who are intending on coming to the trails, just to get a rough estimate on numbers??

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me and vinny will probably pop along

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for comedy effect :bite:

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Someone needs to post who needs to retrial for this if they currently play for Croydon as no one has published anything?!

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My dads looked at the list of pecentages from last season and is currently deciding on around 9 or 10 players who won't have to re-trial. Leaving 5 or 6 spots to play for ...
This list will be up shortly, but obviously if you didn't play last year your going to have to trials as there's no 'wildcards' for the B team.

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Ok, cheers for the update Tom!

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Obviously :D:

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The following players have been picked for next years Croydon Squad due to their percentages last year and will not have to re-trial:

Kyle-Lee Picket
Hugh Telford
Nick Pool
Cliff Mills
Tom Telford
Graf Bishop
Mark Hartley-Miler
Leon Pope
Wayne Pope
Charles Burrows
Mick Saunders
Chris Knock
Ian David
Steve Aldridge
Lloyd Barnes

This leaves 8 places to trial for.

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WOW..finished on 67% and still couldn't get in.:cry:

Croydon are going to be a very strong team this year!

Especially the new players that are going to trial.

Those places are going to be hard to get!

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On the sheet my dad was given you name was crossed out as stopped playing??

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That's correct due to personal reasons I didnt play the last 3 games for Croydon last season. But those problems have been sorted and therefore wish to play again this season. If I need to retrial due the missed games from last season then this is not a problem.

Cheers...

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Expect to see me on the 13th Tom - i need the practice!

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I'll come along to this too.

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Count me in.

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I'll be there...

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I will also be there.

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Mr Telford I felt compelled to write to you and tell you how unhappy I am about the trials being on a Saturday surely you knew I work Saturdays. Having been in the Croydon team for 10 years previously including winning two man of the matches against Brighton and having won over a hundred croydon league trophies I am disgusted you are expecting me to trial, I will not be there on Saturday but you know where I am if you realize how much you need me

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Just a reminder to everyone that the Croydon interleague trials are on tomorrow down Rileys Purley Way. It's a 12:30 registration for a 1 o'clock start.

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Any news?

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Just would like to say Thanks to Paul Wildman , Mick saunders, and Tom Telford for a very well organised comp
I won 3 matches lost 4 never mind
and thanks for a nice afternoon
good luck to all the players that qualified

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I was gonna say the same thing. But might as well quote what you said.

I feel sorry for that lady working in the bar... She had to make drinks, Collect glasses and make food all by HERSELF... that is just sad. there should be at least 2/3 staff in helping around. Especially in a busy comp.

I had a great day out ?3 for hours of pool. That's pretty good well done to whoever qualified. I also got 3/4...

Looking forward to taking part again.

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That's not the first time that Rileys has been understaffed on busy days. You hear things about Rileys offering ?4,000+ to stage all the singles and doubles beyond the third round. If they do have money like this to throw around, I'd rather they use that money to employ more staff and perhaps put the heating on occasionally!! :swear:

With regards to interleague, I really hope some good players come out of the trials. I've had 5/0 out of the last two trials, but found interleague itself is a lot harder - hence one of the reasons I'm taking a break!

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It would b nice to no who entered and qualifed...

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il put a list up tomorrow morning saying how everyone got on.

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Well done to all the players who quaified
But the person who was at the top of there game was Katie
Ii arrived at 10.15 she was cleaning tables hoovering the floor, she ran the bar and kitchen all day single handed.
she has to be the champion of the day.
WELL DONE KATIE.:winner::clapping:

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come on tom dont keep us in suspence,how did everyone do and whos made it.:clap:

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Personly i felt that yesterday went really well, it run very smoothly (largely thanks to Shaggy, Mick Saunders and Katie) and we even managed to play best of 3s in the swiss system rather than 1 frames, which made it the fairest possible way to trial. We got 20 runners turn up yesterday which was a resonable amount with 8 players getting through.

Runners:

John Hersey
Paul Saxton
Darren Porter
Mark Ramsey
Jon Prothero
Jamie Kay
Ray Tolfrey
Shane St Romaine
Halil Nadeem
Rob Collings
Martin Drinkwater
Scott Harrison
Dave Truan
Spencer Barnes
Barry Watkins
Martin Duncan
Edita Tuckova
Mick Huggins
Steve Pantony
Emil George

The Players in red are the Players that Qualified.

Just like to say a very well done to all the qualifiers and unlucky to all the other entrants especially Ray Tolfrey who narrowly lost out 2-1 in a ply-off for the fianl place. The first Match is next sunday which starts at 7:15:
Croydon 'A' vs Croydon 'B'

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well done to all that made it and unlucky to those that missed out this time.should be a great game next week,things are looking good for croydon this season.:clap:

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It looks like some good players have gone through. Still not sure why Scott had to retrial - yes he missed the last couple of games, but I'm sure they were for good reasons.

So how does the A-team work? Don't they have trials???

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I believe that anyone over 50% that played over 50% were retained whether they were A's or not. You may have noticed that Tony Jackson who was in the A's last year was not retained. Did Barry Watkins play for the A#'s or B's last year. If it was the A's his redord meant he had to retrail.

I also understand that Scott had to requalify as he had indicated he was unable to play next season, but there was a change of his circumstances after the retained players were notifed.

I suppose ultimately Hughie accepted the fact he wasn't playing and asked Scott to do it all over again. Scott did and did, so fair play to him.

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So what do the two squads ( A & B ) now look like? Who's in?

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I think the trials were more squad trials than B team trials, most of the trialists will b in the Bs but some may get in the As if Hughie wants them, with the 8 who qualified, 15 retained and say 3 wilcards he will now have a squad of 26 and he will choose his best 13 and the other 13 will b in the Bs. looks like both teams will b stronger than last year so could b a good year all round for Croydon!!

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Yeah my dad and Mick saunder are meeting some timetgos week to decide who they want in their teams. Once they've decided it il post the two squads on here.