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Drillers - The End of an Era
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| Golden |
Posted on 08-11-2007 09:12
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Why should the entire format be change because a small number of teams can't get 7 players out on a regular basis? You'll change it so that you only need 5 players and will get only Steve Raines and John Hoy turning up 
The Flying Machine get 10 players at every match and more often than not they have a 10-day camel ride to away matches yet you don't see them folding . . |
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| Sass |
Posted on 08-11-2007 14:15
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The format should be changed because the league is about playing pool and matches are regularly finishing in under an hour.
If I'd trekked from the desert to play a pool match I'd expect it to last the evening! |
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| Fat-Dart |
Posted on 08-11-2007 16:35
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Surely we all joined a pool league to play pool, so it makes perfect sense that any format change which gives us more games of pool to play can only be a good thing.
There aren't that many teams that I know of who have many more than 7 turning up regularly, so the 2 sets with subs idea sounds ideal, even for the bigger squads. |
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| Dogger |
Posted on 08-11-2007 16:39
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i think we have 2 more players wanting to sign up so we could even set up a B team |
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| JugglingSpence |
Posted on 08-11-2007 16:50
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If teams are struggling to get players why not put a players wanted section on this site. That way anyone who wants to change teams can see who is looking for players.
It would also give people who are interested in joining the league an entry route and stop it from being a closed loop like it is at the moment- most people who join know someone who is on a team already. |
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| Sass |
Posted on 08-11-2007 17:02
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Dogger wrote:
i think we have 2 more players wanting to sign up so we could even set up a B team
Great. Another trip to Mars . . . |
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| buntycollocks |
Posted on 08-11-2007 18:02
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Golden wrote:
Neither . . Unless Sass is a distant relative or has married me without telling me . .
sorry matey
i shouldve realised it was sass in her old school leotard
and
ur a grass
I do hope Palace get relegated......then the traffic will be better when im on the bus. |
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| Sass |
Posted on 08-11-2007 18:11
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This is interesting. I know it wasn't me so who's telling porkies?!! |
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| Spud |
Posted on 08-11-2007 18:49
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I personally like the 7 player, 7 frame format, and what I'd like to see ideally, is the current format simply doubled, with an 8pm start time applied, and, if required, the time rule applied to matches that are over running.
Substitutions at the half way point optional, up to 3 subs
1 point every frame won, win bonus of 2 points, drawn match 1 point.
This doesn't solve the situation with reagards to teams being short of players, BUT, it makes it more attractive for potential signings, becasue there is more pool to play, and it's a longer format.
Most matches now rarely take more than 90 minutes, so 3 hours (8pm to 11pm) should be grand. |
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| Shaggy |
Posted on 08-11-2007 19:11
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I have been roped into playing for a few teams in the Godalming League and played my first match last night. They play 14 frames and the match last night was quite slow but still started at 8 and finished at 11.
Its rules are in between both set of rules here.You can reallistically have any number of players between 5 and 14 and still fulfill a fixture, because amaximum of three frames can be played by an individual. They pick as you go along, so you can in reality have one man playing the first three frames etc etc, and a platyer playing the last three so itts flexible for those that need to shoot off and those that need to turn up late.
It is a more experienced league in terms of World Rules though as it adopted them universally throughout the leagues right from the start, so the implications on the lower divisons are less.
I would personally suggest that Sass's proposal is the best short term, and that 10 frames should be played with anywhere between 5 and 10 players being able to play to fulfill a fixture to its max. 1 bonus point for a draw, 2 bonus points a win. This should be with a view to increasing over time.
There really is no excuse not to have 5 players so at least the now ridiculous play again rule (which had a valid reason when it started but is now farcical) can be scrapped. If you only have four, tough, you lose two frames!
Edited by Shaggy on 08-11-2007 19:13
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| Sass |
Posted on 08-11-2007 19:15
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8pm start time is hopeless for me. I struggle to make 8.30 most weeks  |
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| Spud |
Posted on 08-11-2007 19:26
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You could still play 5th if you turn up at 8:30. . . .
And even then, the match could still continue, with late players playing catch up when they arrived.
The beauty of a longer format, is you have more flexibility.
In the Surrey interleague, it quite often happens that a player will play three frames on the spin due to having to leave early, or arriving late.
No real issue there. |
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| Shaggy |
Posted on 08-11-2007 19:40
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If you played 10 rather than 14 you could still start at 8.30 in my opinion. 14 however needs to start at 8.
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| Sass |
Posted on 08-11-2007 20:06
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Spud wrote:
You could still play 5th if you turn up at 8:30. . . .
And even then, the match could still continue, with late players playing catch up when they arrived.
The beauty of a longer format, is you have more flexibility.
In the Surrey interleague, it quite often happens that a player will play three frames on the spin due to having to leave early, or arriving late.
No real issue there.
Guess not. Except that someone else would have to take over being captain. Matches would generally finish after 11.
14 frames in a night would be the end of my involvement in Croydon league. |
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| Golden |
Posted on 08-11-2007 20:12
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buntycollocks wrote:
i love my picture
Your avatar has been deleted . .
Edited by TheSaxtonator on 08-11-2007 20:13 |
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| Golden |
Posted on 08-11-2007 20:17
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What people seem to forget when throwing these ideas about is that when you change the format it has implications on other aspects of the league such as how the rankings work, how many frames the cup competitions are played over . .
This will be the third time it's been discussed and yet still a concrete proposal isn't apparent . . We'll end up with some shoddy format in place which turns out to be as wank as the 'plate' competition . . |
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| Spud |
Posted on 08-11-2007 20:29
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So you'd leave it as it is then?
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| MavisDavis |
Posted on 08-11-2007 21:15
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5 players is an interesting concept and I can see some benefits. I like the current format though so would want to trial this in the league cup or something first to see if it can work or not. |
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| Sass |
Posted on 08-11-2007 21:20
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Why would it impact the rankings? The first frame that any player plays in the evening in the first 7 will count for the rankings. No different from how it is now. I agree with you that the plate comp is a waste of space.
There is nothing wrong with leaving it how it is but I think CDPL should be concerned about the number of teams dropping out. A format that allows for current teams to continue as they are but requires a minimum of 5 players makes it easier for new teams to enter and I think that should be encouraged.
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| Sass |
Posted on 08-11-2007 21:23
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Cup games best of 9. |
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