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propositions for division 1 next winter
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| mayweatherbrindle |
Posted on 05-07-2013 02:30
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Well said met..some people might not get there till 8.15 as it is.but u just put down the players that are first...simple.and it wnt finish that much later
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| No1 Nugget |
Posted on 05-07-2013 02:35
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metin250 wrote:
Il have my pennies worth then:
15 frames is the way forward having played it in reigate.
If It gives an opportunity to play more pool then how can that be bad?
Starting at 8pm should never be a problem as most teams r there early anyway( with exception of jacko)
15 frames or 11 frames - the best team will always win the league so that makes no difference.
Scotch doubles - no no no no no , i 100% agree with jacko it is not needed, it will slow the match down to a halt and thats the last thing u need in a 15 frame night.
15 frames in reigate r usually done by 10pm ,lower teams may take longer but not 2 hrs longer but thats what the clocks for so just time the game and its all gravy!
What i will add is please can someone vote in that we have a coin toss for the first game and alternate the rest, this flipping for every frame is stupid!
It means some teams can get through a whole match without a break if their unlucky!
Totally agree Metin so is anybody interested in seconded this at the meeting For division 1 only to see how it goes for just next season
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| jacko |
Posted on 05-07-2013 03:00
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Yes met the alternate breaking is so obviously its laughable we don't already do it...n guys I do understand there r down sides as in huge defeats r possible n teams may dominate the league but more frames is surely better..n chris lots ov guys cum n go at different times ona pool nite n others r there all nite so for example u could play later in the 1st set n early in the last set if ur time is limited n if other teams with bigger squads av players with limited time then they can juggle there squad around to accommodate every1....pro's outway the cons me thinks  |
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| No1 Nugget |
Posted on 05-07-2013 03:36
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Jacko why don't we put this to the meeting next month both options for division 1 mate let's make it happen and stop all this talking about it every season and when we show them it works we can then move Croydon pool up another level 
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| Shaggy |
Posted on 05-07-2013 03:58
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The one thing you have to consider Neil, it not the 1st Division that decide what happens in Division 1. Its up to the whole league. Yes there is a history of things being different, but it still has to be agreed by all. Remember the League Cup format, rankings and the like effect everybody so any change to just one division will still have implications elsewhere.
I dont really see anything wrong in the format we have, coin toss aside.
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| No1 Nugget |
Posted on 05-07-2013 05:02
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But like Knocky said a lot of teams now have bigger squads and turn up every week and 9/10 don't get a shot in the top division at least this way the top boys get 3 games every week and it can work across all divisions if we give it a chance and I want to propose this at the meeting and if any secretary out there that wants to help put this across at the meeting let us know? Come on Croydon Lets give it a go we did with introducing the 11th game and I hate the play off games and it's only 4 extra games.
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| Special K |
Posted on 05-07-2013 05:50
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15 frames way forward I personally want this to happen I don't understand why people are banging on about getting raped if its 15 frames what's the difference if u are losing 10-1 9-2 u are still getting raped lol.... 15 frames makes more of a night of it if u sign that paper work u commit to a Tuesday nite u commit to playing pool so whys that a bad thing? Personally I love scotch maybe playing the 15 frame as scotch would be interesting that would be kinda good in my eyes. Lets get this done 11 frames is boring!
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| Denzil |
Posted on 05-07-2013 08:23
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I think that 15 frames is a awful idea. The league is Always about getting new teams and there is no way they will get new teams with this idea. They have found it heard to keep we teams will 11 frames. This idea it based to strethen 1 Division and 2 rather than the league. I think 11 frames is more than enough, anything more would destroy the lower division.
Now I can only speak for my team , but we enjoy going every Tuesday as we go out have a good laugh, I understand it may be shorter in the upper divisions , but more frames will kill the league as no new tems will join as getting beat 15 - 0 or something similar will be just as bad.
Also this post came from plan b in the bottem division, just my thoughts |
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| The Big Show |
Posted on 05-07-2013 15:12
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I hate the play off games and it's only 4 extra games. At 7/7 its still a play off game no?!
at least this way the top boys get 3 games every week Does this mean you DONT get to play then?! 
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| Foxy |
Posted on 05-07-2013 15:27
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metin250 wrote:
What i will add is please can someone vote in that we have a coin toss for the first game and alternate the rest, this flipping for every frame is stupid!
It means some teams can get through a whole match without a break if their unlucky!
Met I proposed this at the AGM a couple of seasons ago as it's the way we play Interleague and County as you know. Unfortunately it got booted straight out. No-one was interested as they said that it would mean teams would change the order that they played their players.
I still think it should be brought it, so if you can find anyone to put in the proposal i'm happy to second it
Edited by Foxy on 05-07-2013 15:29
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| andye |
Posted on 05-07-2013 15:57
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i liked the 7 frame format, i like the 10 frame format and i like the 11 frame format.
but i'm not a fan of the 15 frame format...
the gap between top teams and the lower teams will be bigger with more frames, hence matches won't be so intense and each frame will have more importance and hence more pressure, which i like.
at the moment if your 4 or 5-0 down you can still get something out of the game, that isn't so likely when your 7-0 down
i've played in the reigate league and when you've already won 8-2 the remaining frames are pointless
for me tuesday night is about a bit of pool and a bit of drinking with your mates... i don't wanna be playing pool all night, clock watching...
i would like to see alternate breaks tho
and the individuals needs to be altered now if level to your 2nd frame or % cos we can't have the fiasco of last year of 6 winners, then 2 mates bottling a play-off and sharing it!
and as for jacko suggesting starting earlier, i can only assume he has an insider at the BBC that tells him east enders is gonna be aired an hour earlier then usual!
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| Triple C |
Posted on 05-07-2013 15:59
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I think if it is proposed in the KO cup should be reduced to first to 5... |
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| mayweatherbrindle |
Posted on 05-07-2013 16:01
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Denzil ur completely wrong.redhill do this and still get teams enter.and new teams wnt even know the old format of 11 frames any way.there not gunna go-oh dear its 15 frames lets not enter lol...neil and cathy get it done done.seems most players agree.even the top players
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| mayweatherbrindle |
Posted on 05-07-2013 16:09
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Andye alot of people take it seriously and dnt use a tue nite as a piss up.if thats wot u want then go to the pub and just have a few frames n a few beers..most people agree with it.more than people who look at just the negatives...pros out weigh the cons...so wot if other teams get beat by a better team and the gaps more..sign better players or practice more lol
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| A King Disher |
Posted on 05-07-2013 16:15
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BOOM !
ERRRRRR RANG is back.
Wohhhhhh, we have a visitor and his merry men to Div 1 this winter for 1 season only and already he's stirring things up and trying to dictate the pace to us fully fledged div 1 teams.
I think not. You're liked best in div 2 and you'll be headed straight back after your experience with us.
For all of you that were present at an AGM some time back when Cathy did indeed propose a 15 frame format, you will remember that it was rejected and thrown out for lack of positve votes. Although the league did compremise and changed it to an 11 frame format so that each match would have a winning team.
If the majority of you (as it seems) really would welcome the 15 frame format then I suggest you badger your Secretary and make sure he attends each and every AGM to represent your views. Without him there, your voice doesn't count so how can we know what the majority would really wish for the future of this league.
I for one am in favour of 15 frames and know for sure that we will complete a match in adaquate time.
The only problem I see which could hinder this is that there won't be enough space on the score card for another block of 5 !!!!!!!!!!!! And I don't want to carry a bigger peice of paper.
There, I've had my say and I'm sticking with it lol.
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| jacko |
Posted on 05-07-2013 16:29
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Yes tel...n andy me n hughie bottled it did we,yea coz wev never ad any bottle av we...how maybe didnt wana play in the 1st place n new there woz 2 trophies so shared it at the earliest possible time...I believe play offs for winas is bs the trophie is for most wins no matter how many tie...n andy my ego does not require an outright win as I aint got nothing to prove unlike sum who av never won anything individually. ..bottle lol wat u talking bout willis |
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| the-shark |
Posted on 05-07-2013 17:03
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thing is floyd most teams dont take it seriously and for most players its a night out with the lads and a game of pool in that order! and talk of finishing by 10-10.30 by starting at 8pm just wont happen! we played a match tues 8.15 start finished around 11.05 so add another 4 frames your looking at midnight and i know a few div 1 players who dont want the 15 frame format for that reason! like last year reading this forum you would get the impression everyone wanted it but then theres only a minority of regular users who post on here so its not really a true reflection of how many feel. if it happens then so be it but personally id rather it not but then thats just my opinion.
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| andye |
Posted on 05-07-2013 17:50
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brindle, do you really think i don't take it seriously? believe me i probably practice harder then most in the league, but i do like the balance of pool and socialising.
just because the pros out weigh the cons for you it doesn't mean it does for anyone else!
i play for the eagles so signing up new players to compete really isn't the issue. we win most games but i like matches to be closer and more competitive
jacko, nice bite btw.... there were 6 of you who finished top of the individuals, you can't start a playoff and then when 2 team mates make the final decide to split it, it's either all or nothing. i've been involved in a play-off and it's toughie as people lose when they don't deserve to, having finished top
that's why i think there should be a deciding factor, 2nd frames of % of wins
i agree also the KO cup should be close cut as it open it up more |
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| No1 Nugget |
Posted on 05-07-2013 17:55
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The Big Show wrote:
I hate the play off games and it's only 4 extra games. At 7/7 its still a play off game no?!
at least this way the top boys get 3 games every week Does this mean you DONT get to play then?!
At 7/7 mate it would be a play off but we don't get to choose who plays it as we would have 3 sets of 5 which is the way forward and we are done by most nights by 10.00/10.30 and would welcome extra, funny Marc about getting 3 games at least you would get at a game? 
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| No1 Nugget |
Posted on 05-07-2013 18:03
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Foxy wrote:
metin250 wrote:
What i will add is please can someone vote in that we have a coin toss for the first game and alternate the rest, this flipping for every frame is stupid!
It means some teams can get through a whole match without a break if their unlucky!
Met I proposed this at the AGM a couple of seasons ago as it's the way we play Interleague and County as you know. Unfortunately it got booted straight out. No-one was interested as they said that it would mean teams would change the order that they played their players.
I still think it should be brought it, so if you can find anyone to put in the proposal i'm happy to second it
Cathy I will second it with the card to be filled in and when the match starts with the first toss then the players can't be altered as no one will know who has the break until the first game,
Also want to propose 15 games for the top division or top 2 and try it and see what there thoughts are at the next meeting?
What's the next steps do we send it to the league committee ?
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