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I think applying them at the half way stage, and end of season makes more sense than the current rule.

The Drillers pulling out has unquestionable worked in our favour, however we have had the Hotshots, Prop and Eden in the first three weeks, so if we had lost any of those we could have been the team feeling agreived.

The bottom line is the rules are there in black and white and until addressed should be adhered to.
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ThePower wrote:
Of course they do, nobody is saying they should change them now, but it does need to be addressed because not only have some sides benefited now but they will do so again in the 2nd half of the season.


If the rules can be changed at the half year meeting then they should be.
 
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The rules couldn't possible changed mid-season to apply retrospectively surely?
 
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I don't think that's what they mean Dan,you can't change this seasons rules but we can change it for next year to stop this stupid situation happening again.
 
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Average rules is stupid full stop . . My thinking is that if 50% of frames haven't been played then they should be scrapped . . If 50% has been played then the first half results remain and the second half is scrapped . . That way it's in black and white and is on a level playing field . .
 
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Golden wrote:
The rules couldn't possible changed mid-season to apply retrospectively surely?


I don't think that is what Longshanks is suggesting. Just get something better in place for the start of the next season.
 
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There's an echo in here . .
 
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People read Nuttmeg's posts?? winkgrinevil laugh
 
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I think Alex was suggesting something could be done at the halfway stage so that the farce wouldn't continue longer than it needed to. The Eagles have gained out of it and the Bloodhounds will feel hard done by.
 
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longshanks wrote:
The Eagles have gained out of it and the Bloodhounds will feel hard done by.

As will The Rack Pack
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this is getting like the croydon singles league laughing

rules this and rules that

ffs

dan matey

its time 4 the cramp and cueitis evil laugh
I do hope Palace get relegated......then the traffic will be better when im on the bus.
 
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Shhhh I'm finally getting rid of it . . I'll be thinking of nothing else now!!

Longshanks - I didn't think rules could be enforced mid-season? The fact remains that it's always been in our own hands and the average results reflect form so far so everyone has earned their respective result . .
 
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if the rules says averages.....then so be it

but i dont agree with it

it would be much better and fairer if the results were scrapped and then everybodys got the same points off the drillers

i only say this coz.....it just dont seem right that teams will be playing the same players again 4 another team

in football.....its called being cup tied if u played 4 another team in the same comp

so scrap the points and let the drillers play 4 another team or in micky and doms case.....let them fail 2 turn up 4 another team

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I do hope Palace get relegated......then the traffic will be better when im on the bus.
 
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Longshanks - I didn't think rules could be enforced mid-season? .


Probably not.

I agree with Cliff though, scrap the results and let the ex-Drillers not turn up for other teams.
 
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There is little point in wasting our time pointing fingers screaming
"That's not fair...."

The rule is in place. Let it be.

Some will be deemed to have benefitted, some will feel very hard done by.

The rule in place, was put in place years ago when it was very rare a team dropped out, and if they did, it was always 70/80% of the way through the year.
The prospect of a team dropping out after 3 games would probably have been laughed at.

Fact is, you can't please all of the people all of the time, I know, I tried with the singles league, and it's impossible. There is always gonna be someone who feels like they've been f*ked over.

The only people who are at blame are the unreliable members of the drillers team.
Rainsy, Hoy and Samuels have been equally let down, and shouldn't be punished for other peoples lack of commitment.

It's only week 4. Everyone still has thier own fate in thier hands.
Factor in the averages, and go from there.

Let's play pool people.
 
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I can understand boths points of view, but why should a team who have already lost get to benefit. At the end of the day, the Bloodhounds played and lost 6-1. Its potentially 2,3 or more points that other teams nearer the bottom end do not have the opportunity of gaining on them.

The midpoint is the way forward for applying those points though, because nobody can say they dint have the opportunity to get there average up, or that they had a harder draw etc.
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Easy to say when you are top.

Because its currently all the top sides, most of which who had a piss easy opening 3 matches, that have and will continue to benefit from the Drillers demise....

I don't think its fair! ner ner

It's also a bad call to allow ex-Drillers, reliable or unreliable to join another Div 1 team. You wait and see the turmoil this will be causing come relegation crunch time in April next year....
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In my opinion, and this is not because we are having a bad time of it at the moment. I reckon that everyone should be awarded the same points.

All fair, and everyones happy....especially me Smile
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It's also narrowed the relegation crunch though....

Only 2 go down now.

As I said, impossible to please everyone, and I appreciate that it is easy said sitting in the position that we are, but I'd think the same regardless.

It will be debated the whole season long no doubt, but I think it will make very little difference in the outcome of things.

With regards to ex. Drillers playing, it's either let them play, or don't.
And I don't think they deserve to be black listed because of this, perhaps one for the future.
The Unpredictables have benefitted greatly, yes.
But if they had been allowed to join a struggling 2nd division side, The Maple Tree for instance, then the rest if Division 2 would be up in arms at the same ruling.

Mark has allowed them to play, there is no specific ruling in place to cover this eventuality so has made a decision.
I think it's the right one.
 
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