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Drillers - The End of an Era
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| Coneycueist |
Posted on 10-11-2007 01:31
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What happens if a team disbands mid season, can their players move elsewhere in the same season?
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| Lils |
Posted on 10-11-2007 01:53
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See, now I didn't think they could, as then it's just easy for people to disband a team with no penalty . . . I'm sure Deutch will confirm. |
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| ThePower |
Posted on 10-11-2007 03:01
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And we are due to play the Drillers on Tuesday so some advance warning would be appreciated because if I don't fancy travelling 120 miles for a no show to happen. |
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| The_Saxtonator |
Posted on 10-11-2007 08:22
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I am pretty sure that when Graeme Witt ran a team in last years summer season which folded, he was not allowed to join another team, I presume this is the same situation now
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| harry |
Posted on 10-11-2007 16:49
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There are ways around everything.
For example, if the team is going to fold and some players want to continue to play (Rainsey for example). They simply de-register beforehand, then give me (ahem) give another team a ring.....Sorted!
Edited by harry on 10-11-2007 16:50
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| Viper |
Posted on 10-11-2007 17:18
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Their is no rule that covers the eligibility of players playing for other teams if their original team folds .... Personally, I think that if a team folds then all registered players from that team should not be eligible to play for other teams within tjat season ... sorry Harry, but as I said it is a personal opinion. |
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| Coneycueist |
Posted on 10-11-2007 17:22
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I don't think you would need Columbo on the case to realize what you were doing though Harry lol
Personally however I wouldn't have a problem with the commited element of the drillers finding another team in the same season. It's only a pub league after all and seems a little harsh to punish people twice for unreliable team mates.
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| Viper |
Posted on 10-11-2007 17:23
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Hold the front page a minute .... Item 8 of the Constitution states that a player cannot transfer to another team if his/her original team has been suspended ...... What is the difference between a suspended team and a withdrawn team other than the obvious ??? |
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| Viper |
Posted on 10-11-2007 17:24
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Coneycueist wrote:
I don't think you would need Columbo on the case to realize what you were doing though Harry lol
Personally however I wouldn't have a problem with the commited element of the drillers finding another team in the same season. It's only a pub league after all and seems a little harsh to punish people twice for unreliable team mates.
That is also a fair comment |
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| MavisDavis |
Posted on 10-11-2007 18:37
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I'd feel sorry for the committed players in the Drillers team but it would start a worrying precedent of they were allowed to join members of another team after dropping out. It is too easy a way out and doesn't encourage teams to make sure they are going to be in it for the long haul. I'm sure Berty would agree, that at the start of every season we look at how many players we have and how many of those we can count on week in week out. The Drillers know which of their players are unreliable and none of us are surprised that these rumours are happening again and seem to have happened every year. I agree with Deutsch that a team dropping out is the same as a team being suspended... |
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| harry |
Posted on 10-11-2007 19:04
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The point I am trying to make is, some of the Drillers want to play pool. It isn't their fault that some of the other players have let them down.
We only have 7 players this season, last week only 6 turned up because 1 was working.
I tried my hardest to get extra players for this season, I even begged on the other site.
It wasn't my fault a couple of my players from last season were taken from me 
I'm not blaming the players who left me, it's up to them. Im simply saying, if my team are struggling for players, why not let the commited players join another team struggling for players?
Besides, the more players I have signed up, the more players the Prop have to choose from to poach off me 
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| Coneycueist |
Posted on 10-11-2007 20:23
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I see your point Harry but the two players you lost last season were relatively new recruits but nonetheless highly regarded players, who were always going to be vulnerable when a 'bigger' or 'more prestigiously regarded' side came in for them. it is a short term fix getting players like that and does not necessarily solve the long term problem. A couple of Drillers are likely to help keep you up, but how likely are they to be with you next season?
Do an eden mate and try to get a lower division or new player (easier said than done I know but possible) who you can groom into your team ethic. These players will be more grateful for the opportunity and be more likely to be loyal in the future. If you keep replacing 'big named' people each year you run the risk of unsettling your regulars and upsetting the team spirit that has been a big part of your success to date.
Just one point of view though. As I said earlier shotgun Mick Samuel. 
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| harry |
Posted on 11-11-2007 17:09
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Mark Miller has been playing for my team on and off for many seasons.
As for Tom Jackman, mine was the only team he had ever played for.
There is no reason The Rack Pack can't attract big names, after all we have ambition and a wonderful Secretary.....Me!
Where's the smiley for blowing my own trumpet?
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| Golden |
Posted on 11-11-2007 18:48
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Tom Jackman was discovered by The Prop years and years ago from when he used to play down The Eagle on a Sunday afternoon  |
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| harry |
Posted on 11-11-2007 22:17
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Golden wrote:
Tom Jackman was discovered by The Prop years and years ago from when he used to play down The Eagle on a Sunday afternoon
How can it be years and years ago, he is only 12 now????
You were also spotted years ago, unfortunately I overlooked you 
What a winkle !!!! :hanged:
Edited by harry on 11-11-2007 22:19
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| harry |
Posted on 11-11-2007 22:34
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Deutch wrote:
Hold the front page a minute .... Item 8 of the Constitution states that a player cannot transfer to another team if his/her original team has been suspended ...... What is the difference between a suspended team and a withdrawn team other than the obvious ???
A suspended team is suspended for a reason, i.e not paying fines, not phoning results through, un-sporting behaviour etc......Am i right, or is it the Sunday afternoon drinking talking?
If a team has 8 players (for example) signed up at the beginning of a season, then 3 or 4 decide they can not make it (for whatever reason), then why should the remaining 4 players who are commited to the team and playing pool have to sit out?
I am not trying to get players for my team (although the door is open) I am just trying to make sense of the situation.
If The Rack Pack folded under the same circumstances, I would be gutted to have to wait until April/May of next year to join another team (providing anyone would have me)
Does this make sense?
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| Knocky |
Posted on 11-11-2007 23:19
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i agree with you harry,the unpredictables may soon be in the same boat as terry is having a break and graf and i have work commitments which means that ocasionly the team will only have 4 players available.if the team folded and the players banned for the rest of the season i would hang up my cue even though i love pool WORK does have to come first
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| longshanks |
Posted on 12-11-2007 17:15
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With teams folding and other teams struggling it would be a shame to see players who are willing to play being prevented from so doing by a rule in the constitution which could be interpreted differently. |
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| ThePower |
Posted on 12-11-2007 19:23
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Apparently Micky Samuels and John Hoy confirm the Drillers are 100% no more and that Ben Compton should have told Mark Halsey they have withdrawn from the league. There is a bit of confusion whether Ben has notified the league and as we are due to play the Drillers tomorrow night it would be good to get some official clarification on this one way or the other. |
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| oddball |
Posted on 13-11-2007 03:58
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If he drillers are no more then lets hope the league will let the committed players sign up play for the other teams who need help and not let them go the same way as the drillers |
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