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Cue-Balls with spots!!
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| Sniper |
Posted on 24-06-2008 04:22
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paparazzi wrote:
Just out of curiousity why did the goodfella's start using one ?
Mark is colour blind and so are the rest of us - there you go all sorted - lol  |
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Posted on 24-06-2008 04:37
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Was just reading through the replies & debats, and came across the word 'Cheats', please let it be noted that on no occasion did anyone in our team or my self mention the word Cheats! This is not a word I would associate with 99.9% of any team in this league. I would like to apologise to The Goodfellas for that comment, not that it was from me, but I, it seems, am to blame for it.
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| The_Saxtonator |
Posted on 24-06-2008 05:57
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JugglingSpence wrote:
How about putting it to a website poll?
Have just added a poll for this |
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| Fat-Dart |
Posted on 24-06-2008 15:03
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paparazzi wrote:
Just out of curiousity why did the goodfella's start using one ?
It actually started as a gimmick, as it looks good when you put plenty of joy on the cue ball (which is obviously why they use it for tv too). Seeing as pool at our level is very seldom amazing to watch, it makes a pleasant change to actual see the spin people put on shots.
As I said many times before, it's a 'legal' ball and we asked first. Many people now enjoy it (although clearly the most vocal on here are those against). The vast majority of our opponents just see it for what it is - a spotty ball, and get on with the game totally unaffected by it. |
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Posted on 24-06-2008 15:42
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I haven't read all this thread but f.f.s please tell me this ain't all about a cue ball
Too be honest just get on with it and pot the balls - regardless of the type they are - If you ain't good enough then it's got fcuk all to do with the cue ball, more that you are $hite end of....
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| Shaggy |
Posted on 24-06-2008 15:47
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No Truey you are wrong, what the Goodfellas havent told anyone is that the ball is actually square, and made of cheese.
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| Sass |
Posted on 24-06-2008 16:08
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The only vote that matters is the one at the AGM. |
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Posted on 24-06-2008 16:17
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I've been pretty vocal but you guys seem to want to take the piss out of me and go off on tangents more than have a proper debate on the subject.
I don't like the ball but I wouldn't have made an issue of it had you guys not been forcing people to play with it who don't want to. I had always understood that you were allowed to play with that ball on the understanding that you would respect any opponent who didn't want to play with it. |
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Posted on 24-06-2008 17:20
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If my vague memory serves me right the spotted cue balls were not permitted for use in the untelevised stages of the World Championships. I see no harm in them myself but I think they should only be used if there is a specific reason for doing so, ie practice or television. They don't help you hit the ball only to observe how you did hit it. In the absence of the need for such observation their only usefulness is as a distraction to those unacustomed to them.
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| ThePower |
Posted on 24-06-2008 18:10
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Sass wrote:
I don't like the ball but I wouldn't have made an issue of it had you guys not been forcing people to play with it who don't want to. I had always understood that you were allowed to play with that ball on the understanding that you would respect any opponent who didn't want to play with it.
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Posted on 24-06-2008 19:16
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Truey wrote:
I haven't read all this thread but f.f.s please tell me this ain't all about a cue ball
Too be honest just get on with it and pot the balls - regardless of the type they are - If you ain't good enough then it's got fcuk all to do with the cue ball, more that you are $hite end of....
Well said !!
I like anything that has more spots than my forehead 
Can one person honestly say that they lost because of some spots on a cue-ball ?? 
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Posted on 25-06-2008 18:51
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I have a busy week at work and look what happens - a whole thread talking about me 
Personally I dont care what ball we use, but the fact it annoys so many of you makes it all worth while.
If we gain an advange from it, then all good. We wont be the only team in the league gaining an advantage from a controversial piece of kit.
My opinion is that if you are a good player, it has zero effect on your game. If you're not, then you were probably going to lose anyway. 
P.S. At the risk of getting personal (worth the risk) ThePower - you are a total cock.
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| Sniper |
Posted on 25-06-2008 19:52
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Dude what are you on?
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| Lils |
Posted on 25-06-2008 20:36
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Pubs with shit tables and smell of all things unholy shouldn't be allowed in the League, but they are. People who don't wash should be excluded - again, they still find places in teams because it's legal.
Angles, can you please show me your copy of World Rules which states a 'regular white ball' should be used, because every copy I have says just 'a white ball'.
No, I didn't like the spotted ball all the time I played for the Goodfellas. But I got on with it. I'd rather play with a legal white ball with spots on than on a table with more rolls than a bakery, dead cushions and on tables which are not supposed to be played on because they exceed the permitted size allowed by the Croydon Pool League.
Should they change the white if the away team object? Maybe. But when you travel away from home you accept the venue and the table as it is. I've been to a location which had no rest and I couldn't take the shot I wanted. Should I have sent them to a neighbouring pub to fetch one? That was more likely to cost me my frame than a spotted white ball.
It's a fcuking cue ball. If I thought it cost me a frame, I'd moan. But then if the table rolling cost me a frame, i'd moan at that too. I just enjoy moaning for the sake of it. Seems i'm not alone in that.  |
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Posted on 25-06-2008 21:46
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Lils wrote:
.... to a location which had no rest and I couldn't take the shot I wanted. Should I have sent them to a neighbouring pub to fetch one?...
OMG, what's next? Teams not providing a box for you to see over the table?
I'd have thought with your height, having your own rest would be more beneficial than bringing your own cue!  |
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| Shaggy |
Posted on 25-06-2008 22:09
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At our match last night there was only one triangle between two matches, and young Mr Rimmer didnt want to go round and ask for it. He proceeded to set them up by hand, and obvioulsy it was almost impossible to pot a ball.
When I said this was stupid he declared that we shouldnt worry as 'I have an emergency triangle in the boot of my car!'
I was flummoxed, who else would cater for such an eventuality. He still didnt go to his car and get it though.
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| EmDee |
Posted on 25-06-2008 22:53
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BAAHAHAHAAA
Why the hell can't people use a ball with a few dots on it? What difference does it make? Honestly, it's  ing ridiculous!
I have heard that you can drive a golf cart across a green when Tiger Woods is putting and he won't even notice. That is because he is so focussed on his shot. Basically all good players need to be able to block out any distractions, and if you can't then you pay the price.
I hate it when people stand at the end of my shot and stare at me when I'm cueing, but I still take the shot - and if I miss I don't blame that fact that I missed on them - It was my fault for missing.
I would also like to give props to CueBall for slagging off ThePower
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| Sass |
Posted on 25-06-2008 23:21
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Shaggy wrote:
At our match last night there was only one triangle between two matches, and young Mr Rimmer didnt want to go round and ask for it. He proceeded to set them up by hand, and obvioulsy it was almost impossible to pot a ball.
When I said this was stupid he declared that we shouldnt worry as 'I have an emergency triangle in the boot of my car!'
I was flummoxed, who else would cater for such an eventuality. He still didnt go to his car and get it though.
I have one too. It looks like this . . .
Not sure how much good it would have been . . . |
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| ThePower |
Posted on 26-06-2008 04:25
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Lils wrote:
Pubs with shit tables and smell of all things unholy shouldn't be allowed in the League, but they are. People who don't wash should be excluded - again, they still find places in teams because it's legal.
Angles, can you please show me your copy of World Rules which states a 'regular white ball' should be used, because every copy I have says just 'a white ball'.
No, I didn't like the spotted ball all the time I played for the Goodfellas. But I got on with it. I'd rather play with a legal white ball with spots on than on a table with more rolls than a bakery, dead cushions and on tables which are not supposed to be played on because they exceed the permitted size allowed by the Croydon Pool League.
Should they change the white if the away team object? Maybe. But when you travel away from home you accept the venue and the table as it is. I've been to a location which had no rest and I couldn't take the shot I wanted. Should I have sent them to a neighbouring pub to fetch one? That was more likely to cost me my frame than a spotted white ball.
It's a fcuking cue ball. If I thought it cost me a frame, I'd moan. But then if the table rolling cost me a frame, i'd moan at that too. I just enjoy moaning for the sake of it. Seems i'm not alone in that.
Donna, what has a teams venue, the tables, playing conditions, or whether the pubs provides a rest or equipment got to do with this thread?? We are debating a cue ball and the Goodfella's unsporting behaviour, and use of gamesmanship as a result of using the spotted practice ball.
You admit above that you opposed to 'not liking' the spotted cue ball whilst playing at the Goodfellas, but they still used it!! Knowing you as I do, I cannot believe for one minute that you could convince or alter a decision of team that for sometime from the neutral onlooker has unfortunately been looked upon as being a victim of naivity of being easily lead.
Please do me and the rest of the idle onlooker a favour and not let us get sucked in by your comments the reason the spotted cue ball is being used by the Goodfella's for the sake it is legal.
You have missed the point here, like the rest of the Goodfella's team has done (or so they lead us to believe) since this unsavoury affair has arisen. The issue is really not the spotted cue ball but something else. WHY DO THE GOODFELLA'S USE IT?
The legal use of the spotted ball has not been confirmed by Croydon Pool League committee members. Correct me if I am wrong Donna, but were you or was you not on the Croydon Pool League committee and playing for the Goodfella's at the exact time the Goodfella's Captain Mark Stallard (Fat Dart) made an alleged 'telephone' request to Mark Halsey to request and to allegedly ask for a verbal exceptance to use a spotted cue ball under CPDL league conditions (the use of which we are lead to now understand had allegedly 'special' conditions that correct me if I am wrong have failed to ever be mentioned by the committee of the CPDL!!!! PAST members or present).
I understand that amendments to equipment /rules that we are governed by have to be agreed by a universal vote at an AGM. Perhaps Donna as a former CDPL committe member you will clarify this point for us?
The issue of the spotted cue ball, legal or not, has to be sanctioned by the CPDL members. I cannot find any written confirmation or random vote which has agreed in principal to using this cue ball under and in accodance with current CPDL league constitution. So what makes that ball legal until CDPL vote it in, bearing in mind (before you think better) 'we' ('CDPL' as a league seem to 'choose' what, when and if which EPA or World rule or ruling suits or fits our current set up as a league constitution. So how can YOU, ME or anyone say with confidence that we all say - YES the ball is 100% 'legal' when CPDL choose what rules suit them or does not suit them. Read the current set up and you have your answer.
So ball issue over, we then move onto the next issue. Why do the Goodfella's use the ball? Fuck me do we all know the real answer to that one. Majority of us seem to feel its used to gain an advantage. That debate was killed as early as post three. Why?? Fat Dart answered that question in one of his first posts.............here it comes....
ADVANTAGE GAINED? Mark Stallard: There is none.
Mark Stallard: Other of course than HOME ADVANTAGE!!!
Who Cue Ball looks the TOTAL COCK NOW?
Answers on a text to Mark Stallard 07775 791910
Lastly, Angles is correct actually re the white ball. You know Arthur well, he is harmless, and yet you think its okay to 'ridicule' him on one missed placed 'word'. Ridiculing someone is the lowest form of wit. You know my long term mate Arthur, he is one of the good guys and didn't once upon a time you use to be a team mate of his.....
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| Spudangles |
Posted on 26-06-2008 07:56
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Being allowed to use the spotted white in League games is a joke imho |
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